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What we learned from interviewing 50+ guests
🎙️ Our year end episode 2025
Dear hustlers, founders, operators and visionaries,
As the year comes to a close, we turn the microphone inward. You guys asked us: What are our biggest learnings from all our conversations? What are our take-away’s? And: who are we, actually?
We recorded this behind-the-scenes look at the questions that kept resurfacing: why thinking small is Europe’s biggest self-inflicted constraint, why saying “no” is one of the hardest growth skills to master, and why success has very little to do with titles or funding rounds.
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Why you should listen
You should listen to this if you want to know our biggest learnings in less than 45 minutes from speaking to over 50 guests from startupland.
You asked us so many different questions throughout the year - who we are, what are learnings are from all these conversations, and our personal advice on key challenges - this episode is about us answering this for you.
What we talk about
01:10 - The two hosts of the show: who we are
10:39 - What key lessons we have from the guest conversations
18:34 - Which advice to ignore as a founder
28:38 - Our lessons from getting busy guests on the show
36:44 - How we stay sane…
Our main take away’s from 50+ interviews
Thinking big is a mindset, not a milestone:
One of the strongest recurring lessons from guests was the importance of building with international ambition from the start. Even when focusing on a home market, founders who think globally shape better decisions around talent, product, and long-term scale. The constraint isn’t geography, it’s mindset.Focus grows companies faster than opportunity does:
Across episodes, a consistent theme emerged: saying no is not a weakness but a discipline. Whether it’s declining speaking invites, product features, or distractions disguised as growth, the ability to protect focus showed up again and again as a defining trait of effective founders.Introspection compounds learning:
Beyond sales skills or technical brilliance, the ability to reflect, learn from mistakes, and adjust behavior stood out as a deeply underrated founder skill. Founders who grow fastest aren’t those who avoid failure, but those who examine it honestly and adapt quickly.Ego must serve the company, not the other way around:
The most impressive founders balance confidence with humility. They know when ego is necessary to push through rejection, and when it must step aside to let better people, ideas, and decisions lead. Emotional intelligence isn’t a soft skill, it’s structural.Success is personal and contextual:
Rather than chasing a universal definition, both hosts emphasized success as meaningful work combined with sustained relationships and personal grounding. Titles, metrics, and outcomes change, but fulfillment comes from alignment between impact, curiosity, and life outside of work.

Follow the Gradient is a weekly newsletter and podcast by the serial founders Melanie Gabriel & Christian Woese about how to build a business from Europe while staying sane.

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