Dear hustlers, founders, operators and visionaries,

Today's guest is Jan Goetz, co-founder and CEO of IQM Quantum Computers, the first European quantum company on its way to a public listing. Jan spun IQM out of Aalto University and VTT in 2018 with three scientific co-founders, closed Finland's largest seed round, and has since raised over €600m across Seed, Series A, Series B and a pre-IPO add-on. In February 2026 IQM announced a SPAC merger at a $1.8bn pre-money valuation, heading to a dual NYSE and Nasdaq Helsinki listing.

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Why you should listen

You should listen to this if you are building a deep-tech or capital-intensive company in Europe and need a real account of the leadership, fundraising, and structural decisions that don't survive press releases.

As the conversation unfolded, the real tension emerged between building a company to last and building one to be acquired, and how every leadership, capital, and architecture decision quietly picks one or the other.

What we talk about

  • Co-CEO Reversal: Why IQM Went Back to One

  • Co-CEO Playbook: When Bandwidth Beats Ego

  • Founder Role: Transform Yourself or Change It

  • Deep Tech Fundraising: From Science to Product

  • European Cap Table: Pension Funds and Lidl

  • Full-Stack Quantum: Building Our Chip Factory

  • Dual Listing: NYSE and Helsinki Together

  • Selling Deep Tech: Why It Isn't SaaS

  • Founder Discipline: Marathon and Calendar

Our main take away’s

  1. Co-CEO is a bandwidth fix, not an ego fix. IQM didn't add a second CEO because Jan ran out of ambition. He was on the road fundraising full-time while commercial traction needed an owner. The setup only made sense because there was a real, structural gap β€” and once the gap closed, the setup stopped making sense.

  2. A written org chart is the floor, not the ceiling. Roles were extremely clear and documented from day one: fundraising, PR and tech to Jan; operations, finance and commercial to Mikko. The system still broke at the edges, because people will route to whoever they think will give them the answer they want β€” no matter what the chart says.

  3. "Either transform yourself alongside the company, or change your role. Don't try to do neither." Jan's framework for every scaling crisis. The painful path is changing yourself as the company grows. The clarifying path is accepting a specialised role. The path that destroys companies is pretending the choice doesn't exist.

  4. Deep tech requires building the full stack on purpose. IQM built its own chip factory, assembly line, and data centre in Europe β€” and explicitly rejected the cleaner alternative of optimising for a US-hyperscaler acquisition. That choice compounds across the cap table, the hiring plan, the customer base, and the eventual listing structure.

  5. A European cap table doesn't survive a US-only listing. Pension funds, governmental investors, and European family offices need a European venue to continue supporting the company. Listing on Nasdaq Helsinki alongside NYSE wasn't a vanity move β€” it was the only structure that protects both US capital access and the institutional support that got IQM here.

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