Dear hustlers, founders, operators and visionaries,
Today’s guest is Judith Dada, General Partner at Visionaries Club, who backs European founders and built Open Source Nanny into a shared database with 100+ real childcare setups from operators worldwide. She has worked across global tech ecosystems and actively shapes European founder policy and talent initiatives.
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Why you should listen
You should listen to this if you care about where value in AI will actually accrue and what Europe gives up by conceding the model and infrastructure layers too early.
At some point it became clear to us in the conversation, how founders’ choices reveal a clash between realism and feel-good optimism, especially when the cost of losing scales across Europe.
What we talk about
00:00 Introduction
02:30 Why European tech sovereignty suddenly feels urgent
05:39 Why realism and agency must coexist
08:58 Where Europe is too optimistic about AI layers
10:01 Why statistics don’t define Europe’s future
12:22 AI as a civilizational rather than technical shift
15:05 The widening gap between AI frontier and reality
20:12 Choosing hard problems despite low odds
25:29 Realizing no one else is driving the bus
27:56 From leaving Europe to fixing its foundations
30:21 Speaking up when silence feels safer
35:31 Parenting ambitious careers without pretending it’s easy
45:14 Building the Relativity Collective: peer environments that raise ambition
48:37 Rapid fire questions
Our main take away’s
Europe is weakening its future by treating the model and infrastructure layers as someone else’s problem. This is true because value concentration may shift away from applications, and conceding early locks Europe out of redistribution capacity if AI-driven wealth scales unevenly.
Performative optimism is as damaging as performative pessimism. Pretending Europe is “winning” blocks serious action, while doomsday statistics ignore that outliers still shape history under constraints.
AI adoption failure inside incumbents does not invalidate frontier progress. Organizational inertia and slow diffusion explain why mid-level operators see no gains while model capabilities accelerate elsewhere.
Founders underestimate the cost of not competing when the downside compounds. Even with low odds of winning against hyperscalers, the consequence of losing sovereignty in Europe over intelligence is structurally worse than failed attempts.
High agency extends beyond companies into systems. Initiatives like EU Inc. show that individual operators can move policy and social infrastructure when they stop outsourcing responsibility.
How to reach out to Judith
Her substack Dadalogue (we can highly recommend)
Her VC fund Visionaries Club
Additional material we talked about in our podcast
Relativity Collective - A highly selective pan-European future founder programme connecting Europe’s most ambitious talent early. If you are a European student or doctoral researchers with highly entrepreneurial ambition, apply here until February 14, 2026!
Exclusive from Judith
What is one early decision you see AI founders make that almost always limits their long-term leverage, even if it looks smart in the short term?
Not taking the exponential seriously enough and planning product roadmaps accordingly
What is one constraint of building in Europe that founders should stop complaining about and instead deliberately design for from day one?
Stop treating Europe like a supermarket and start contributing to Europe like an owner.
What is one way founders or investors unintentionally shape the ecosystem through what they tolerate, not just what they actively do?
Performative pessimism (shitposting on Europe) and performative optimism (pretending like everything is great)
What is one assumption about ambition or commitment that founders with kids should actively unlearn as early as possible?
Kids are a full-time job and somebody needs to do that full-time job. Plan accordingly.
Looking back, what is one belief about what was “realistically possible” for you that only changed once you were surrounded by a different peer group?
You can pretty much do anything in life - many wonderful jobs just come down to somewhat smart people who are somewhat good in dealing with other people giving it their best shot.
What is success for you?
Snoring daughter in my arms and the clarity of thought after I finished a new Substack post.
What books, podcasts, articles inspired you?
What are habits, activities or rituals that keep you sane (while scaling your business)?
Bathtub + podcast session at least once a month.
What is one “growth hack” that has a positive impact on you or the company?
No hack, just good old persistence - don’t take no for an answer :).
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